Discussion in 'Game Day' started by BeviBall, Aug 7, 2016.
Shields 1.1 IP 8 ER
Way to sell high at the deadline, Hahn you
Honestly don't think there was a market, about a week before the deadline some stat geek on 670 was spewing on how Shields advanced stats during his hot streak were no different from the beginning of the year and his start with the Sox, basically he said he was going thru a lucky streak and was gonna regress back
Supposedly a Shields for Puig offer was on the table but the Sox were not interested
Yeah I heard that but nobody has confirmed it which leads me to believe it was a bunch of bullshit
If it sounds retarded from a SOX perspective, I always believe it until proven otherwise.
Manny Machado with 3 HRs and 7 RBIs in three innings? Holy lol
Hope Mo is enjoying his free tickets.
You're all insane. If there was any market for Shields that didn't include the Sox basically paying his entire salary for the next 3 years to pitch for someone else, they would have jumped at it. GMs aren't retarded though, unfortunately, so I'm sure they barely had interest in a rather awful contract for a pitcher on the wrong side of 30 who seemed to have declined greatly this season.
Let's at least be reasonable when talking about how Hahn didn't do anything at the deadline. They would have loved to get rid of guys like this especially.
Thanks for your hot take, Brooks.
Yes, yes... So much easier to be outraged that they didn't actually pull the trigger on the deal that wiped all that money off the books and got a possibly valuable bat back in the process than to think that maybe that deal didn't actually exist.
Just ignore my posts, don't group this retard with the other retards JEANS!!!
When bums like Andrew Cashner and Wade Miley were being traded there was certainly a market for Shields. The Puig thing makes sense because they clearly have no more use for him and Shields at $28 million for 3 years is nothing to the Dodgers. If the Sox chip in $8 million to make it a even $20 million the cost is so low in 2016 salaries it's not even worth mentioning. Especially the Dodgers who just need to find someone healthy to pitch and Urias is almost certainly on an IP limit.
No saying they get anything more back than a relief pitcher or maybe some utility IF type but hey it makes more sense than having James Shields on the roster for 2017.
If there was even as much as a call on Shields that didn't involve paying the entire salary I would've jumped, even if for a low A guy. We heard there was activity on Shields while we don't have confirmation there was smoke... Was it White Sox created smoke? Who knows but there was something there.
This team is literally too stupid to trade him. They think they've got a good deal on a 3/4 for the next 2 years.
I don't believe that. I think the only teams willing to take a flier on him wanted the Sox to pay most/all of the way. Which they don't do.
Cheap? Yes. So stupid that they insist on keeping a quickly declining pitcher who they don't really have any attachment to, that's still guaranteed $42 mm for the next 2 years? Doubtful.
How many fucking times do we have to explain that the Sox only are on the hook for the remaining $28 million? If you knock off $7 to 10 million the money is almost nothing to a MLB team.
Yes dude, got it. Not sure why you think I'm confused about that. Fine, it's not all their money - that's still his total salary. And now you're still asking a team to take money off your hands for an over the hill SP who isn't very good any more. Why you think teams were throwing offers at the Sox left and right for a shitty pitcher SD couldn't wait to get off their books is beyond me. They probably low balled the shit out of every offer, like the Sox pay all but $1million of his contract or something and they told they to get fucked out of cheapness. That's always been their policy: don't pay players to play for other teams.
They paid John Danks and Keppinger to go away because they were shitty, that was about $20 million in dead money. They wouldn't be willing to send over $10 million with Shields to another team?
No IWMB is right, they legit thought they had something in Shields that he would provide value to a 2017 team because the team is run by a bunch of stupid fucks. The fact they didn't even trade Gonzo, Robertson, Jones, Jennings, Melky, Frazier- extra assets not needed on a team going nowhere proves they think have some sort of talent collection that shouldn't be broken up unless they got some crazy offer.
Because we now know they basically could've said the Duke deal was not a sell off, because they planned to play Tilson right away. If they had started selling off players like Shields for some low A pitcher or whatever, you couldn't spin that at selling off. And the reason it didn't happen is because the Sox weren't interested in being sellers. Should've taken whatever deal they could've for those players, they serve no purpose on a 2017 Sox team. Of course the FO doesn't realize that, they think they can compete in 2017.
Sox also paid most of Durham and Linestink's contracts to play on other teams.