2017 Hawks Offseason

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  1. IWMB
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    TVR is as good as gone.
  2. Pig
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    Pig I Am The One Who Locks Cupcake Mod

    Cap.PNG

    Edited because I accidentally counted the bonuses twice...
  3. chops
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    chops never met prope

    Is this different than years past when teams would only offer up like 5 guys?
  4. Pig
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    Fine by me, and I agree. Gives Rutta a spot in the lineup and then perhaps Rozsival can be there to hang out and play a handful of games. If he doesn't retire.
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    Prope RIP soxwon

  6. IWMB
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    :mj:
  7. y2chae
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    Yeah article sucks. Stan has more to do with the last 2 Cups than Q. You could argue Q cost them a 3rd with that WCF game 7 vs the Kings
  8. y2chae
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    Also the players they got rid of to appease Q: Daley, Leddy come to mind
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    Ziggy I Can Get Laid in Germany

  10. Pig
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    Just got an alert saying Hossa will miss entire 2017-18 season due to a progressive skin disorder and the side effects of his medications. Looks like the long awaited LTIR retirement (maybe why they specified missing just next year?), but sooner than I imagined. This might be quite serious since he had a great year and showed know signs of wanting to leave the game.

    Sucks for Hossa, but the Hawks have a lot to replace now.

    :salute:
  11. BeviBall
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    BeviBall No wallet. No crack. Not me.

    26 goals, best two-way player and probably the only forward we have that's willing to go into the corners and win the puck. Yeesh. That's a gaping hole to fill.
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    Exactly. Top 4 forward on the team still, easily. Other teams' fans will bitch about the Hawks avoiding those cap penalties by placing him on the LTIR, but they would be much better off with him and his cap hit than without. I'm not sure he would actually play the remainder of his contract anyway, but it still looked like he had at least two years left at his current level.
  13. IWMB
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    Let's just drop that in the middle of the night the night before the expansion draft.

    So fishy.
  14. Team Speed
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    This will get plenty of skepticism but I'm doubting the Hawks can do much better with his cap space in terms of value add. It does give some flexibility where they have had none, so that's nice.
  15. IWMB
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    Maybe they can get Neal from Vegas. $5MM/2018 UFA.
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    Timing is suspect
  17. Cheeses
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    Cheeses Do not be afraid to crush the cucks with your mind Cupcake Mod

    Golden Knights claim TVR.
  18. Pig
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    TVR might get flipped to another team. Hearing Carolina. Also sounds like Kruger might still be moved.

    It has been an interesting day, for sure. Hawks have some work to do.
  19. IWMB
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    :whoknew:
  20. Prope
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    Prope RIP soxwon

    You did. You said it the other day.
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  21. gbergman
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    gbergman Legendary Drunken Youth

    They traded TvR to Carolina today...
  22. sycked
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    sycked If you loved me, you'd all kill yourselves today.

    :waiting: on IWMB's reaction to the hammer trade
  23. IWMB
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    I just saw it.

    Really sucks to lose him. I know very little about the 2 guys they got, but Murphy is 6 years younger than Hammer and signed at $3.85MM for 5 years, so the thinking is get younger.
  24. IWMB
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    Holy shit, Panarin traded for Saad?

    Hang onto your BUTTS
  25. Pig
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    This is crazy. Wow.

    Hammer has been my favorite Hawk for a while. Really tough to lose him, but it is clear they are really going to shake things up this time.
  26. IWMB
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    ✔@PierreVLeBrun

    Motte and Forsberg and a pick swap also part of the Saad-Panarin trade
  27. IWMB
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    Appears that's Anton Forsberg, so that's your new backup.

    Very good AHL numbers the last few seasons.
  28. Pig
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    Murphy helps solve the RD problem and is on contract for 5 more years. That helps a little... Dauphin has potential. It seems underwhelming for Hammer at first, but it could turn out to be a solid deal.
  29. Pig
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    Saad deal makes sense too, after the initial shock. It would be tough to keep Panarin after two years if he keeps tearing it up. Saad is signed longer and they get their backup goalie.

    What's next? :nervous:
  30. IWMB
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    And with Hossa gone Saad's 2 way game becomes more necessary.

    4 years of Saad > 2 years of Panarin, who had to be gone you'd think after this contract.
  31. Pig
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    Toews should be happy to see Saad back. Kane can carry his own line with Anisimov and whoever at LW.

    Saad - Toews - DeBrincat
    Panik - Anisimov - Kane
    Hartman - Schmaltz - Hayden
    Hinostroza - Kruger? - Kero
    Tootoo

    Keith - Seabrook
    Kempny - Murphy
    Forsling - Rutta
    Rozsival

    Crawford
    Forsberg

    Let's see what else they can do...
  32. IWMB
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    Panik isn't a LW.

    Saad-Toews-Panik
    Hartman-Anisimov-Kane

    That's your top 6 at the moment
  33. Pig
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    I was just kind of filling in spots for the most part. Bottom 6 needs work, but all those guys had valuable experience last year. I imagined Hartman as Kane's LW but obviously other guys will be thrown in there. I may be remembering incorrectly but I though Panik played a bit at LW with Toews when they were shuffling his line.

    Hopefully Debrincat does well and makes the team. If he does I would think it would be a high minutes role otherwise have him develop elsewhere. They played a role in my lines too. But Saad - Toews - Panik looks solid.
  34. BeviBall
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    BeviBall No wallet. No crack. Not me.

    LOVE Saad for Panarin. 19 does too. Playoffs really outed Breadman. PP will suffer but Saad back takes the sting out of losing Hossa a bit.
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  35. AnthraxFan93
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    Breadman was a one shot pony.. Works great in the regular season, not so much come playoff time. Love both deals long term.
  36. Fuller
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    Fuller Trump had no ideas, he just went too far

    I hate losing Hammer but I understand there needed to be changes on D.

    I actually like the Saad move for the same reasons CBM stated.

    Should be a fun team to watch.
  37. IWMB
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    Positivity from Anthrax?

    :faint:
  38. IWMB
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    :hmm:
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  39. BeviBall
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    BeviBall No wallet. No crack. Not me.

    Unless he takes a deep discount, and why would he, dis ain't happening.
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  41. sycked
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    sycked If you loved me, you'd all kill yourselves today.

  42. IWMB
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    :shrug:

    Obviously it was a pipedream.
  43. Pig
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    Mark Lazerus
    As expected, #Blackhawks have tendered qualifying offers to RFAs Dennis Rasmussen, Tomas Jurco, Erik Gustafsson and Ville Pokka.


    No word on Forsberg's but I would expect it.
  44. IWMB
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    Forsberg locked up for 2 years.
  45. Pig
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    :thumbsup:

    And Jurco for one year.
  46. chops
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    update the cash sheet, pig?
  47. IWMB
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  48. chops
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    If Hossa is "dead" do we still take the hit?
  49. y2chae
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    Woof, that Seabrook contract
  50. IWMB
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    One of the most idiotic deals ever.

    League hasn't ruled yet on whether they will be allowed to put him on LTIR.

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