I mean, all we know after today is not what type of value they could've gotten for certain guys or anything like that. We know that they think they have a legit chance at being competitive next year. Otherwise, you take deals for guys like Robertson, Melky, Frazier, etc. regardless if they are the perfect deal or you think you're getting equal back. To me, those guys are worth 0 value on the Sox beyond today, obviously, Kenny, Hahn and the crew disagree.